The Emasculation of Men in the Church?

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As the father of 5, yes, FIVE boys, I have a lot of questions about how boys become men.

More so, how they might become men of faith. Susan and I (well, more Susan) have read a bunch of books on rearing men with emotional intelligence, with leadership, with an ability to think for themselves. And it is a daunting task before us: how do we train up these young pups to be “real” men? And what does that mean anyway?

I’m always suspicious when I read descriptions of gender stereotypes from Christian speakers.

Nearly always such descriptions seem to be preferences based around the particular writer or speaker’s personal cultural background, education and tastes. Scripture speaks very little with regard to typifying genders (boys like blue, girls like pink, etc.), and a “baptized” version of someone’s preferences only makes for a higher tee at which skeptics and critics of the Christian church can take a nice big full swing at Jesus and Christianity. And that does not help anyone.

Scripture also never calls men to be more masculine or women to be more feminine. It calls both sexes to become more like Christ.

In the American church context, I have heard more than one writer remark that Christian spirituality emasculates men—makes them soft, humble, destroys their confidence in self, etc. I may have just gone to public school, but even I read something very different in the Bible. When I look at Scripture, I read of men with passion for their king and a willingness to stick their necks out for justice, truth, and righteousness. King David’s “Mighty Men” (see 2 Samuel 23 and 1 Chronicles 11) were men who risked everything for their king. The “Minor Prophets” were men with MAJOR conviction and willingness to speak about injustice and idolatry, even when it cost them their audience, their reputation, and quite possibly, their lives. Christian spirituality does not necessarily emasculate. If it does, the problem is not likely Jesus or Christian theology, but the community of faith and its willingness to let men be passive and weak.

The Church in general and liberti church in particular is full of godly women.

I’m floored by the maturity of many of the women I meet at liberti—women who run their own businesses, communicate clearly, and are not afraid to risk and lead. I have no desire to demote or downplay the role of such women in our church. Our church would not be the healthy community that it is without such capable leaders. But come on, where are you fellas? We have “a few good men” who are jumping in. Statistically speaking, however, women way outnumber men at liberti and the American church in particular.

How am I supposed to raise 5 boys in a community where more men are not lining up to be counted and considered for more spiritual leadership?

Who will be their role models? They need more than just a dad. Do you know how many messed up pastor’s kids there are out there? It is anecdotal by this point. I need other men to be spiritual leaders for my kids’ sake—to step up to the plate and take some swings at spiritual leadership, becoming other worthy models for my boys to emulate and imitate.

And where are these women supposed to find good husbands?

I’m serious. Paul says that singleness is a gift (1 Cor 7) but I would like a little more diversity in the gifts that God is giving liberti church! I would like to have a lot more weddings to do.

Finally, here goes. We don’t need you guys. God can build this church up with the leadership of the women and a few guys who are in place. But I’m calling, I’m inviting, I’m pleading. Please hear this as an invitation.

You don’t have to become your dad. Become like your FATHER.

2 Timothy 2:1 You then, my son, be strong in the grace that is in Christ Jesus. 2 And the things you have heard me say in the presence of many witnesses entrust to reliable men who will also be qualified to teach others.

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I do not think whether or not Christian spirituality emasculates men is the question at hand. Sometimes men need to be made soft, humble, and have their confidence in self destroyed. It is more a question of whose deifiniton of masculinity we should use. Our society’s definition of what man should be or how he should act is in part wrong. God also says through Paul that unless we have His Spirit living in us, then we will not understand truth. What the world considers to be wise, God considers to be folly, and vice versa (Corint 2 more or less..) Unfortunately we can’t help but let the world’s wisdom infiltrate our expectations of the word ‘man’. There is nothing more ‘manly’, or ‘womanly’ for that matter, than to lose all that we ‘have’ in ‘status’ on this earth for Christ sake so that we might gain it in eternity, as you have said the scripture guides us. We do that by acting in ways that are counterintuitive to the culture of this world. Christ’s triumph was as baffling as it gets. The Savior and King of the world is going to come to earth as a baby in a manger and die on a cross?!? That sounds crazy, unless God has given you His Spirit to help you understand. Those men who have become ‘men’ most honorably in the history of the gospel have forgotten themselves most passionately and God has honored them in allowing them to be martyred for His name. Some were martyred physically others perhaps God honored by martyring their old nature just a little bit more. As for your kids the greatest thing you can do to teach them to be a man is to be the greatest Christian you can be. The measure of respect I have for my Dad, stems from and is directly related to the measure of his faith, because this is how to measure manhood. I am fortunate to have a Christian father who is one of my role models. But he also taught me who his Role Model is by his actions, and so through grace the desire to serve the same master has translated to me. Only we don’t have to worry about that Role Model letting us down, just like as a Dad you might worry about letting your kids down because you know you are not perfect. The rest of the things that goes with being a man or a woman for that matter I think are natural. Men may have tendencies to be more diciplinarian/enforcer types and women may be more of the comforting/loving types. But these are only tendencies as our heavenly Father can give each tendency to the other if he so chooses. It is in this diversity that He has choosen to give us that we can be mystified by his plan because then he uses us in those different capacities to bring glory to his name in countless ways. As for your call to have men step up, I have heard God’s call also and have been trying to do so in my life and in Liberti.

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I’m glad to know that you are suspicious when Christian speakers talk of gender roles/stereotypes. This speech has led to a lot of female oppression throughout the history of the church—there was even a time that the Catholic Church questioned whether women had souls. The choice of Eve has been felt by way too many of us simply for being female.

I too am raising a boy (five is very tough) and I think along similar lines. But we learn to recognize that our children are individuals who will make their own choices. I grew up in a domineering religious household that made me rebel. I do everything I can to make sure my son feels none of that, yet I still want him to know the gospel. It is a delicate balance.

Now to the real meat: the emasculation of the male. Since I am not male, I don’t see this, but you are not the first male Christian to have noted this phenomenon. Some of this relates to changing ideas of masculinity, some of this is a result of living in a fatherless culture as discussed in The Wounded Healer and some of this is the dumbing down and sanitizing of the Christian faith. Jesus is portrayed as some skinny white guy with flowing hair. Look, he was a CARPENTER; I’m married to a carpenter, and through him I know many other men in the trades. Jesus epitomized compassion, but he was as masculine as the drill sergeant who made my husband drop to do pushups until the sergeant got tired of watching. So that is a fallacy, and we should ask ourselves why it is continually perpetuated. My husband went into the service as a way to find a father figure; his dad died when he was young, so the military, where he also got saved, became the place where he felt most taught by superior men. A church can have the same impact on a young man—why not?

You talk of women as leaders and the need for good husbands. I know you are sincere in your concern, yet that bothers me. If women can lead in the church, that is good. If they are leading because men refuse to do so, well, that is also good. But if it is merely a bone to throw at women so that we feel valued in a patriarchical society, then I won’t bite. Women lead well as do men when the Spirit chooses them for the role. Gender has nothing to do with it.

My final point: husbands. Yes, it’s easy for me to say certain things as I am definitely not looking for one of those, but I grew up under severe pressure to marry and I have an obstinate nature; the more a person attempts to force me into something, the more I refuse. So I never cared about marriage. It found me and that’s the truth. So my point is that marriage will find the women who are meant to marry. I firmly believe that. And marriage to the wrong partner is worse than almost anything on the planet—with all due respect, I don’t want to see church leaders make women feel that they should or must marry, nor that men are deficient because they are poor husband material. Marriage must be joined by God. Anything less is a disaster. And even with God’s help, it’s a tough gig.

My two cents. I hope I wasn’t too rude!

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I am not a parent, so I would never presume to give advice about how to raise Godly children. But I am a daughter who has been, and continues to be, most influenced in my faith by the wisdom and example of my mother. Your children will rebel, they will question the values you raised them with and they will point out with brutal precison how short you’ve fallen of the standard you set. I did. Your desire to raise them into an adult faith that is unmarred by their status as PKs is lovely but impossible to achieve. We all have scars—those of us with loving daddies and those of us with cold fathers or worse. Thank God nothing, not the mistakes of the well-intentioned nor the wounds inflicted by the wicked, can separate us from our heavenly Father’s love and His reach. I had a father whose default mode was anger. I stopped speaking to him for several years, until God opened my eyes to the depths of my own struggle with anger. God helped me to forgive my father and brought me into a new relationship with my dad that is so much sweeter to me because I had written it off. Our relationship with Christ is as personal as anything gets. He can use anything for His glory in our lives and in the lives we affect around us. If your boys know that the relationship they have with Christ now is as valid as your relationship with Christ, if they’re given room to test what they believe even if it means walking away for a time, they have more than most. Kudos for challenging the guys to step up. But even if they don’t, God is able to make Himself irresistible to your boys the way He has to you.

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Amen and preach it my man. Well spoken.

Although there were a few prophets (messengers too) in the Bible that didnt always have the faith and fervor that David did (I think of Jonah and maybe even Abraham at the beginning)—you definately have hit a point with modeling our behavior and hearts to those that God smiled upon.

I do also agree that God calls us to himself to be followers of him, first and foremost. And being more or less a man may not have anything to do with this pursuit.

Sure, men have been emasculated. But I don’t blame the church, or God, or even the media primarily. I blame the absence and uninvolvement of so many fathers and lack of male role models to show us what a good healthy personhood looks like in our sex (male).

Just two cents from a guy in Illinois

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Our entire culture has become gender confused — men are emasculated and women objectified — as we’ve failed to become ADULTS. Check out Brad Stine’s GodMen “show” or go to this http://www.latimes.com/news/la-na-godmen7dec07,1,6460310.story

I don’t know if it’s PromiseKeepers version 2.0, but it’d be good to see men take back their ‘nads and be men. And ladies, let LET THEM DO IT.

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Fatboy,
It is good to see your blog and I like your thoughts. As men we need to act and move in faith even if we are uncertain or lack direction. Ask and you shall receive, seek and you shall find. I hope and pray that more men will come forward and emulate Christ in your church and mine.
Your old friend, Alan

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Somewhere there is a balance between “A Boy Named Sue” and Christ’s example as the second Adam — correcting the four roles of the first.

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Hey-Goeff- I saw Alan’s comment and wanted to say Hello!! You know how a wild hearted man lives-if we live from our true hearts we will exerices the true and renewed masculinity we have as sons of God! Love you brother and love you brother Alan, Mark

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What is our “renewed masculinity”?

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